If you recall, Elizabeth Chiddock marries William Fenton a month or so after Samuel marries Rachel Watts in St Helen's parish in Norwich in 1820.
Rather pleasingly, to put it harshly, it transpires she was buried as Elizabeth Finton in St John Timberhill parish on the 28th of June 1836 having lived in St. Edmund's parish. She was 66. Her husband died in 1830 aged 58, also from St. edmunds, but this time buried at St Michael Coslany parish where his family is to be found as either Fentons or Fintons (depending how you write the letter e in a word). The witnesses at the wedding were Noah and Rachel (father and daughter, although whether William was Noah's son - or the illigitimate son (again!) of Elizabeth Finton, we don't know.
Now this is the closest we can get to Elizabeth Chittock, daughter of Robert and Ann Chittock baptised 13th of April 1769. She should be 67, but when do we ever get complete smooth accuracy in family tree 100% of the time? Just look at Samuel's son James in the census trail and tell me he hasn't lost count of his age!
Until we find evidence that completely disproves the connection, I'm quite satisfied that Samuel is the son of Elizabeth, with a Fenton step father (AFTER he marries Rachel Watts). It would be lovely to find a Fenton somewhere as a witness to a child of Chittock weddingor a mention in a will but so far there haven't been any found.
St Edmunds was the parish (in two places actually) where Samuel Chittock was raising his family. Parishes are small places but with lots of people and coincidences are always there.
But...
If you've got any better ideas or can demonstrate otherwise, fire away.
Until then... I'm happy!
Friday, November 26, 2010
Some more on the Elizabeth Problem...
Some new facts have emerged. The Elizabeth Chittock, illigitimate daughter of Elizabeth Chittock baptised at St. George Colegate on the 28th of September 1804 appears to have been buried a month later at St Martin at Oak's parish, both in Norwich. Here, she was registered as a Chiddock. The entry reads that the child was an infant and illigitimate.
Secondly, the Elizabeth Chittock, born to Ann Chittock, who married Robert Waller a year or two after giving birth appears to be the one who marries John Shreeve in 1819. Waller was from St. Michael At Thorn parish and this is where we find the Shreeves set up shop, as it were. Shreeve was a weaver, to begin with. But here's the curious thing. According to the Bishop's Transcripts, which is all you can now see of the wartime destroyed registers, when a daughter called Edis is baptised in the parish on the 14th of January 1823, Elizabeth gives her maiden name as Waller. So when a second Edis is baptised on the 11th of September 1826, her maiden name is Chittock... Now, unless there are two Elizabeths married to a John Shreeve and both decided to name a daughter Edis, it seems that this is the same family. She gave her maiden name in the first instance as that of her step father. Assuming, Robert Waller was her step father and not someone doing 'the right thing...' By the same baptism, she gave her real maiden name. The one which she got married in.
So with Nortons and Spaldings witnessing that wedding, could the Elizabeth Chiddock witnessing be Samuel's mother?
Thanks to a nice member on the Rootschat.com forum, the census shows that the family stayed within that parish with John becmonig a carpenter, and Elizabeth was born at the top of the century, and there is an Edis too, at the right age. Elizabeth's place of birth is put down as Thorn, Norwich. Not Heckingham, where at least she was baptised, if not born. And for two censuses, Samuel Chittock stated he was Norwich born and bred.
Perhaps they were and whisked off to Loddon!
So, this leaves one more Elizabeth Chiddock wedding. The 1820 Fenton wedding at St. Helens. One month or so after Samuel's. Is this his mother finally getting it hitched?
Secondly, the Elizabeth Chittock, born to Ann Chittock, who married Robert Waller a year or two after giving birth appears to be the one who marries John Shreeve in 1819. Waller was from St. Michael At Thorn parish and this is where we find the Shreeves set up shop, as it were. Shreeve was a weaver, to begin with. But here's the curious thing. According to the Bishop's Transcripts, which is all you can now see of the wartime destroyed registers, when a daughter called Edis is baptised in the parish on the 14th of January 1823, Elizabeth gives her maiden name as Waller. So when a second Edis is baptised on the 11th of September 1826, her maiden name is Chittock... Now, unless there are two Elizabeths married to a John Shreeve and both decided to name a daughter Edis, it seems that this is the same family. She gave her maiden name in the first instance as that of her step father. Assuming, Robert Waller was her step father and not someone doing 'the right thing...' By the same baptism, she gave her real maiden name. The one which she got married in.
So with Nortons and Spaldings witnessing that wedding, could the Elizabeth Chiddock witnessing be Samuel's mother?
Thanks to a nice member on the Rootschat.com forum, the census shows that the family stayed within that parish with John becmonig a carpenter, and Elizabeth was born at the top of the century, and there is an Edis too, at the right age. Elizabeth's place of birth is put down as Thorn, Norwich. Not Heckingham, where at least she was baptised, if not born. And for two censuses, Samuel Chittock stated he was Norwich born and bred.
Perhaps they were and whisked off to Loddon!
So, this leaves one more Elizabeth Chiddock wedding. The 1820 Fenton wedding at St. Helens. One month or so after Samuel's. Is this his mother finally getting it hitched?
Monday, November 22, 2010
We have a number of Elizabeth Chittock/Chiddock suspects.
The odds on favourite is the daughter of Robert Chittock and Anne Lacy born 1769 in norwich, St John Timberhill.
The second favourite is Elizabeth Chiddick, daughter of Robert Chiddick and his second wife, Rebecca Bush. She was baptised at St. Gregory's parish in 28th of July 1776. In 1809, an Elizabeth Chiddick marries by license the widow William Hillings at St. Gregory's. . His first wife was Mary Chiddick, married in 1792 in the same parish, also by license. She died in 1807 aged 39. Whether she was a sister is not yet known.
This is what is so far known about this family:
At somepoint in the late 1760s, Robert Chiddock, born circa 1744 marries Susanna Swanton. They then turn up in the registers of St George Tombland. Their short lived son John is baptised on the 3rd of March 1771 and is buried on the fiftenth. On the 19th of February 1772, Robert Chiddick is baptised, and then William in the parish of St. Simon and St Jude on the 24th of October 1773. Susan (Swanton) Chiddick is buried aged 28 at St George Tombland, and barely six months later, Robert has married Rebecca Bush of St Martin at Oak parish, which is to the north of Norwich, at St Gregory's church. The witnesses are William Hillling and Harper Leddelow. Hilling is probably Robert's future in-law. At St Gregory's, the new Chiddick family have Elizabeth (28th of July 1776), James (30th of November 1777) who is buried on the 20th of January 1778 at the village of Caister St. Edmunds a few miles south outside of Norwich. This is the old Roman fort with the church perched at the corner on one of its walls. It is a mere spitting distance from Poringland where future, unrelated to us - Chittocks set up camp. Rebecca (1780) and Thomas (1781) are also buried here. Robert Chiddick junior is buried at St. Gregory's aged 57 on the 29th of March 1829 and his 66 year old father, a widow by now, on the 22nd of March 1803. We haven't found Rebecca's death yet.
It must be said that the consistent spelling of Chiddick is quite telling, suggesting they knew how to spell this variant of their name, and that Elizabeth Chiddick's marriage to the widowed William Hilling might rule her out of the hunt for our Elizabeth - if she is Norwich based at all. She and Mary, sister or cousin, were not illiterate. Until we can find her burial, which if post 1850s is going to be either at Rosary Road cemetary or the big one at Earlham.
So, Robert Chiddick senior ,ay be related to a family of Chiddicks who kept this variant after leaving the numerous Chittocks in the villages of Starston and Redenhall (which also encompass several hamlets like Wortwell.) In the 1783 directory we see a Robert Chiddick listed as Porter House at No. 3 Lower Goat Lane in Norwich which is next to the market. This is the right time for porter house steak to become a staple. This might account for the following advert I stumbled across in a local newspaper whilst looking for sedition:
NORFOLK CHRONICLE: 21. 01. 1792
Robert Chiddock:
At the Castle and Lion Inn opposite the Hall in the Market Place.
Respectfully informs his friends and the public in general that he has taken the above on for the better accomodation of his customers whose favours he solicits, at the same time thanking them for their former support, he assures them that no attention shall be working to merit their approbation in this undertaking.
NB: Good accomodation for horses and carriages.
Norwich January 25 1792
As well as the two Hilling weddings to Mary and Elizabeth Chiddick, in 1792 and 1809 respectively, a William CHITTOCK marries Ann Athill on the 2nd of February 1795 with witnesses John Rix, Harper Leddelow again (probably a parish clerk) and Mary Wormsley. He is illiterate. So he is not Robert Chiddick's son.
At the moment, usual problems apply in finding out what happened to sons Robert and William.
The odds on favourite is the daughter of Robert Chittock and Anne Lacy born 1769 in norwich, St John Timberhill.
The second favourite is Elizabeth Chiddick, daughter of Robert Chiddick and his second wife, Rebecca Bush. She was baptised at St. Gregory's parish in 28th of July 1776. In 1809, an Elizabeth Chiddick marries by license the widow William Hillings at St. Gregory's. . His first wife was Mary Chiddick, married in 1792 in the same parish, also by license. She died in 1807 aged 39. Whether she was a sister is not yet known.
This is what is so far known about this family:
At somepoint in the late 1760s, Robert Chiddock, born circa 1744 marries Susanna Swanton. They then turn up in the registers of St George Tombland. Their short lived son John is baptised on the 3rd of March 1771 and is buried on the fiftenth. On the 19th of February 1772, Robert Chiddick is baptised, and then William in the parish of St. Simon and St Jude on the 24th of October 1773. Susan (Swanton) Chiddick is buried aged 28 at St George Tombland, and barely six months later, Robert has married Rebecca Bush of St Martin at Oak parish, which is to the north of Norwich, at St Gregory's church. The witnesses are William Hillling and Harper Leddelow. Hilling is probably Robert's future in-law. At St Gregory's, the new Chiddick family have Elizabeth (28th of July 1776), James (30th of November 1777) who is buried on the 20th of January 1778 at the village of Caister St. Edmunds a few miles south outside of Norwich. This is the old Roman fort with the church perched at the corner on one of its walls. It is a mere spitting distance from Poringland where future, unrelated to us - Chittocks set up camp. Rebecca (1780) and Thomas (1781) are also buried here. Robert Chiddick junior is buried at St. Gregory's aged 57 on the 29th of March 1829 and his 66 year old father, a widow by now, on the 22nd of March 1803. We haven't found Rebecca's death yet.
It must be said that the consistent spelling of Chiddick is quite telling, suggesting they knew how to spell this variant of their name, and that Elizabeth Chiddick's marriage to the widowed William Hilling might rule her out of the hunt for our Elizabeth - if she is Norwich based at all. She and Mary, sister or cousin, were not illiterate. Until we can find her burial, which if post 1850s is going to be either at Rosary Road cemetary or the big one at Earlham.
So, Robert Chiddick senior ,ay be related to a family of Chiddicks who kept this variant after leaving the numerous Chittocks in the villages of Starston and Redenhall (which also encompass several hamlets like Wortwell.) In the 1783 directory we see a Robert Chiddick listed as Porter House at No. 3 Lower Goat Lane in Norwich which is next to the market. This is the right time for porter house steak to become a staple. This might account for the following advert I stumbled across in a local newspaper whilst looking for sedition:
NORFOLK CHRONICLE: 21. 01. 1792
Robert Chiddock:
At the Castle and Lion Inn opposite the Hall in the Market Place.
Respectfully informs his friends and the public in general that he has taken the above on for the better accomodation of his customers whose favours he solicits, at the same time thanking them for their former support, he assures them that no attention shall be working to merit their approbation in this undertaking.
NB: Good accomodation for horses and carriages.
Norwich January 25 1792
As well as the two Hilling weddings to Mary and Elizabeth Chiddick, in 1792 and 1809 respectively, a William CHITTOCK marries Ann Athill on the 2nd of February 1795 with witnesses John Rix, Harper Leddelow again (probably a parish clerk) and Mary Wormsley. He is illiterate. So he is not Robert Chiddick's son.
At the moment, usual problems apply in finding out what happened to sons Robert and William.
Saturday, November 20, 2010
Samuel Chittock 1799-1875
A quick glance at the Archdeaconry transcripts for Heckingham show that Samuel Chittock was baptised here on 17th of March 1799, the son of Elizabeth Chittock, base born.
So, there you go.
On 23rd of February 1800, an Elizabeth Chittock is baptised, a base born daughter of Ann. She gets married here to a Robert Waller in 1802.
Marvellous.
Except these incidents, although on the transcripts, are not in the microfilm of the parish registers. Heckingham was home to the House of Industry for the area. It will become the workhouse. The registers mention the births and burials from the House of Industry and seem to include them seperately, between 1760 and 1814. The Chittocks don't feature in that. But what about the parisheners themselves?
Are our two female Chittocks inmates at this House of Industry or are they just staying in the village?
Are the registers missing chunks as per bloody usual?
If Elizabeth gave birth to Samuel in the House of Industry, it is rather pleasing that he ended his days in the Great Hospital in Norwich, a charitable institution for the poor, attached to the parish church of St. Helens where he got married.
There are some records for the House of Industry still surviving. A wee peak is in order to see if Elizabeth was an inmate or not. I hope not.
However, if Elizabeth Chittock is descended from the Loddon Chittocks who end up in Norwich, , three of them might have ended up in the House of Industry and die there. Robert and Mary Chittock - who would have been Elizabeth's grandparents from Mundham, and an aunt Susan. Although these three are listed in Heckingham burials for the House of Industry, Mundham is mentioned as to where they come from. Which is odd, surely the actual Heckingham workhouse is where the register should mention they come from.
Oh well, here's to another flaming mystery.
So, there you go.
On 23rd of February 1800, an Elizabeth Chittock is baptised, a base born daughter of Ann. She gets married here to a Robert Waller in 1802.
Marvellous.
Except these incidents, although on the transcripts, are not in the microfilm of the parish registers. Heckingham was home to the House of Industry for the area. It will become the workhouse. The registers mention the births and burials from the House of Industry and seem to include them seperately, between 1760 and 1814. The Chittocks don't feature in that. But what about the parisheners themselves?
Are our two female Chittocks inmates at this House of Industry or are they just staying in the village?
Are the registers missing chunks as per bloody usual?
If Elizabeth gave birth to Samuel in the House of Industry, it is rather pleasing that he ended his days in the Great Hospital in Norwich, a charitable institution for the poor, attached to the parish church of St. Helens where he got married.
There are some records for the House of Industry still surviving. A wee peak is in order to see if Elizabeth was an inmate or not. I hope not.
However, if Elizabeth Chittock is descended from the Loddon Chittocks who end up in Norwich, , three of them might have ended up in the House of Industry and die there. Robert and Mary Chittock - who would have been Elizabeth's grandparents from Mundham, and an aunt Susan. Although these three are listed in Heckingham burials for the House of Industry, Mundham is mentioned as to where they come from. Which is odd, surely the actual Heckingham workhouse is where the register should mention they come from.
Oh well, here's to another flaming mystery.
Thursday, November 18, 2010
Elizabeth Chittock 1769- ?
Until the entry for Samuel's birth can be located and SEEN, it is still just conjecture that his mother Elizabeth is the daughter of Robert Chittock and Ann Lacy from St. John Timberhill in Norwich. She could be one of the others mentioned below...
But consider the lillies...
The Norwich Elizabeth Chittock had three children baptised in Norwich so far known: Robert Chittock, baptised 23rd of June at St Edmunds parish, buried fifth of December 1803 at St. John Timberhill which seems to suggest the connection. The other two children were baptised at St. George Colegate, Elizabeth on the 28th of September 1804 and Ann Martha on the 19th of July 1807.
Was the young Elizabeth married to William Fenton at St Helens only a few months after Sameul Chittock (as Chiddock) and Rachel Watts?
If our Sam was the first of her four children, who was the father of them all? The same man? Common law relationship? She seemed to have settled in St George Colegate. This is where a mysterious Jane Chittock lived when she wrote her will proved in 1800. She was apparently 44 when she died and left everything to her friend and servant Sarah Waller.
So, not much to go on. Perhaps a look at the rates books for the parish in this time of the nineteenth century for Elizabeth, assuming she was a head of a household. Since she had more than one illigitimate child, she was obviously not keen on marriage. A conventional iconoclast!
We have speculated as to whether she was spirited away to Loddon or that area when she fell pregnant in 1798. We have also speculated below whether she is related to Ann Chittock whose illigitimate daughter is called Elizabeth, of 1802
One of the witnesses to Rachel Margaret Chittock's wedding in 1841 was Eleanor Wilson, who was a Trowse. She was illigitimate. Her mother, Martha Trowse, was Rachel's mother's aunt.
But consider the lillies...
The Norwich Elizabeth Chittock had three children baptised in Norwich so far known: Robert Chittock, baptised 23rd of June at St Edmunds parish, buried fifth of December 1803 at St. John Timberhill which seems to suggest the connection. The other two children were baptised at St. George Colegate, Elizabeth on the 28th of September 1804 and Ann Martha on the 19th of July 1807.
Was the young Elizabeth married to William Fenton at St Helens only a few months after Sameul Chittock (as Chiddock) and Rachel Watts?
If our Sam was the first of her four children, who was the father of them all? The same man? Common law relationship? She seemed to have settled in St George Colegate. This is where a mysterious Jane Chittock lived when she wrote her will proved in 1800. She was apparently 44 when she died and left everything to her friend and servant Sarah Waller.
So, not much to go on. Perhaps a look at the rates books for the parish in this time of the nineteenth century for Elizabeth, assuming she was a head of a household. Since she had more than one illigitimate child, she was obviously not keen on marriage. A conventional iconoclast!
We have speculated as to whether she was spirited away to Loddon or that area when she fell pregnant in 1798. We have also speculated below whether she is related to Ann Chittock whose illigitimate daughter is called Elizabeth, of 1802
One of the witnesses to Rachel Margaret Chittock's wedding in 1841 was Eleanor Wilson, who was a Trowse. She was illigitimate. Her mother, Martha Trowse, was Rachel's mother's aunt.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010
Has Samuel Chittock been found at last?
According to a quick search on the new Family Search Beta.org site, a reference to a Saml Chittock baptised on 17th March 1799 at Loddon, the son of Elizabeth Chittock.
Aha, could be him. He gets married in 1820 just after he turns 21. I have suspected he may have been illigitimate. It is only the 1871 census when he is an inmate at the Great hospital where he mentions Loddon in the census.
But a quick peak at the Loddon registers reveal no such entry. Nor in the Arch Deacon's Transcripts held at the Norwich library at the Forum. A real puzzler.
So I gets in touch with the people who run this site, the mormon lot and they very quickly replied thus:
"The film number is 1471002 which is the source of the digitized images. We went to the library catalog and searched for this film number and discovered that it is the Bishop's Transcripts for the Arch Deaconry of Norfolk That particular film number is for certain parishes in the Arch deaconry where your ancestor was found."
I can only assume this entry may refer to a later baptism, an adult one as had his youngest son, Joseph. Or perhaps he was baptised in another parish near Loddon and the transcriber did that ghastly thing of just writing down a few things. Who knows.
Anyway, the next step is to get in touch with a local Mormon centre, who are supposed to be rather good at this sort of thing, and see if they can find the digitised copy for there is another pointer that it is not in the local church of England our Sam was baptised.
On 23 of February 1800, an Elizabeth Chittock was baptised, also at Loddon. Or at least, from Loddon, perhaps just staying. Her mother was Ann Chittock, another illigitimate birth. Whatever would the neighbours say?
If you are related to Joseph Chittock and his wife, Mary Jay, you may have found out that one of Mary's grandparents or great grandparents (I forget which) called Michael Jay shacked up with his widowed house keeper following the death of his wife Deborah and had prodigious amounts of children, and they never married. It was possible to have a family and not get married. Providing you could afford the children. As usual, when the parish had to cough up, like now, no one approves except the most understanding of people when a child was born outside of marriage. Ann Chittock may have been deserted, or a planned wedding delayed... but if I'm right, she married in Heckingham, next door to Loddon, in 1802 to a widowed Robert Waller who comes from St Michael At Thorn's parish in Norwich which is slap bang next to St John Timberhill where all our possible relations lived. James Drane was a witness. The chances of two illigitimate Chittock baptisms within a year of each other, and other connecting factors does seem to indicate that Elizabeth Chittock and Ann Chittock are related. Also, returning from Norwich to be buried in 1790 was Charles Chittock, and another Elizabeth Chittock, a very elderly one returns from Norwich to be buried in 1808. If Elizabeth (Sam's mum) and Ann are the eldest and youngest daughter of Robert Chittock (married to Ann Lacy) who is Charles's cousin (as mentioned in his will), it is possible that these two sisters were sent out of the way to spawn. And back to the ancestral seat, as it were.
Who is Elizabeth Chittock?
Anyway, the above is the first possible Elizabeth. The eldest daughter of Robert Chittock, shoe maker, and Ann Lacy his wife. Baptised in 1769 at St John Timberhill (which I pass twice a week when I take my boy to Judo so I always nod hello to the graveyard) we have yet to find any possible marriage for her, disproving the theory. We can't easily find any Elizabeth Chittock spinster burial either. Why assume this? Well, there is an Elizabeth Chittock in Norwich who has at least three illigitimate children. A Robert William Chittock in 1803 at St. Edmunds, and two in St George Colegate - Elizabeth in 1804 and Ann Martha in 1807. Robert was buried at St John Timberhill before he turned one. This suggests a connection with the Chittocks there. So Samuel being born in 1799 is not out of the question for being one of her children. Our Sam, his first daughter was baptised at St George Colegate. He then moved to St Edmunds, or at least had his kids baptised there.
This is, of course, assuming the Loddon Elizabeth and the Norwich Elizabeth are one and the same, but I think they are, there are still links between the two places with their Chittocks. And the Waller wedding in 1802 also is interesting.
Robert the Eldest, as I have to call him, had a short lived son Robert whose widowed wife married William Norton who considers himself a gent when he witnessed the letter of administration for a Maria Roberts, spinster of Loddon in 1821.
The second candidate for Elizabeth, if we want a Norwich link, is the one born in 1775 to Robert Chiddick and Rebecca Bush of St Gregory's parish. As of yet, I can't find this Robert's birth. He was born in 1744 time, and married twice. He seems to been called Chiddick everywhere he went. But since Chiddick and Chittock appear sometimes in the same record (a cornoer's inquest actually) for the same person, thats the Norwich norfolk dialect for you. DDs and TTs can be misheard.
The third possible Elizabeth is the one in Suffolk you see on the A2A lists if you type in Samuel Chittock. A Sam Chittock was baptised in Weybridge in 1803 and she was the subject of a settlement examination in 1800 time. This could be ours, baptised a good few years after birth, but unlikely. I hope.
So, one step forward, and a whole nest of niggly noos. Who is the Daddy!
Anyway, if this is accurate, dear Samuel Chittock, will no longer be known as circa 1800
Aha, could be him. He gets married in 1820 just after he turns 21. I have suspected he may have been illigitimate. It is only the 1871 census when he is an inmate at the Great hospital where he mentions Loddon in the census.
But a quick peak at the Loddon registers reveal no such entry. Nor in the Arch Deacon's Transcripts held at the Norwich library at the Forum. A real puzzler.
So I gets in touch with the people who run this site, the mormon lot and they very quickly replied thus:
"The film number is 1471002 which is the source of the digitized images. We went to the library catalog and searched for this film number and discovered that it is the Bishop's Transcripts for the Arch Deaconry of Norfolk That particular film number is for certain parishes in the Arch deaconry where your ancestor was found."
I can only assume this entry may refer to a later baptism, an adult one as had his youngest son, Joseph. Or perhaps he was baptised in another parish near Loddon and the transcriber did that ghastly thing of just writing down a few things. Who knows.
Anyway, the next step is to get in touch with a local Mormon centre, who are supposed to be rather good at this sort of thing, and see if they can find the digitised copy for there is another pointer that it is not in the local church of England our Sam was baptised.
On 23 of February 1800, an Elizabeth Chittock was baptised, also at Loddon. Or at least, from Loddon, perhaps just staying. Her mother was Ann Chittock, another illigitimate birth. Whatever would the neighbours say?
If you are related to Joseph Chittock and his wife, Mary Jay, you may have found out that one of Mary's grandparents or great grandparents (I forget which) called Michael Jay shacked up with his widowed house keeper following the death of his wife Deborah and had prodigious amounts of children, and they never married. It was possible to have a family and not get married. Providing you could afford the children. As usual, when the parish had to cough up, like now, no one approves except the most understanding of people when a child was born outside of marriage. Ann Chittock may have been deserted, or a planned wedding delayed... but if I'm right, she married in Heckingham, next door to Loddon, in 1802 to a widowed Robert Waller who comes from St Michael At Thorn's parish in Norwich which is slap bang next to St John Timberhill where all our possible relations lived. James Drane was a witness. The chances of two illigitimate Chittock baptisms within a year of each other, and other connecting factors does seem to indicate that Elizabeth Chittock and Ann Chittock are related. Also, returning from Norwich to be buried in 1790 was Charles Chittock, and another Elizabeth Chittock, a very elderly one returns from Norwich to be buried in 1808. If Elizabeth (Sam's mum) and Ann are the eldest and youngest daughter of Robert Chittock (married to Ann Lacy) who is Charles's cousin (as mentioned in his will), it is possible that these two sisters were sent out of the way to spawn. And back to the ancestral seat, as it were.
Who is Elizabeth Chittock?
Anyway, the above is the first possible Elizabeth. The eldest daughter of Robert Chittock, shoe maker, and Ann Lacy his wife. Baptised in 1769 at St John Timberhill (which I pass twice a week when I take my boy to Judo so I always nod hello to the graveyard) we have yet to find any possible marriage for her, disproving the theory. We can't easily find any Elizabeth Chittock spinster burial either. Why assume this? Well, there is an Elizabeth Chittock in Norwich who has at least three illigitimate children. A Robert William Chittock in 1803 at St. Edmunds, and two in St George Colegate - Elizabeth in 1804 and Ann Martha in 1807. Robert was buried at St John Timberhill before he turned one. This suggests a connection with the Chittocks there. So Samuel being born in 1799 is not out of the question for being one of her children. Our Sam, his first daughter was baptised at St George Colegate. He then moved to St Edmunds, or at least had his kids baptised there.
This is, of course, assuming the Loddon Elizabeth and the Norwich Elizabeth are one and the same, but I think they are, there are still links between the two places with their Chittocks. And the Waller wedding in 1802 also is interesting.
Robert the Eldest, as I have to call him, had a short lived son Robert whose widowed wife married William Norton who considers himself a gent when he witnessed the letter of administration for a Maria Roberts, spinster of Loddon in 1821.
The second candidate for Elizabeth, if we want a Norwich link, is the one born in 1775 to Robert Chiddick and Rebecca Bush of St Gregory's parish. As of yet, I can't find this Robert's birth. He was born in 1744 time, and married twice. He seems to been called Chiddick everywhere he went. But since Chiddick and Chittock appear sometimes in the same record (a cornoer's inquest actually) for the same person, thats the Norwich norfolk dialect for you. DDs and TTs can be misheard.
The third possible Elizabeth is the one in Suffolk you see on the A2A lists if you type in Samuel Chittock. A Sam Chittock was baptised in Weybridge in 1803 and she was the subject of a settlement examination in 1800 time. This could be ours, baptised a good few years after birth, but unlikely. I hope.
So, one step forward, and a whole nest of niggly noos. Who is the Daddy!
Anyway, if this is accurate, dear Samuel Chittock, will no longer be known as circa 1800
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